A Podcast

Gurus: The Story of Acting,
from Stanislavsky to Succession

A twenty-one episode journey through one hundred years of theatrical revolution — from Stanislavsky's Moscow to the Actors Studio, from Copeau's Vieux-Colombier to Juilliard.

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Gurus: The Story of Acting, from Stanislavsky to Succession

"How did actors learn to be truthful? Who taught them, and who taught the teachers?"

The Story of Acting traces the invisible lineage connecting the great teachers and practitioners of the modern stage. Hosted by Jeff Zinn, each episode illuminates a pivotal figure or moment in the two-hundred-year history of how actors are trained — and transformed.

From Rudolf Steiner's philosophy to Stella Adler's rebellion, from Michael Chekhov's spiritual imagination to the Juilliard Drama Division's founding, the podcast draws on rare archival sources, original interviews with celebrated actors, and decades of research.

Vieux-Colombier company with Copeau
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The Complete Series

Episode 02
Episode 02
Collision on West 44th Street
The 1935 American tour of the Moscow Art Theatre ignites a revolution. Stanislavsky's actors demonstrate something American actors have never seen: absolute psychological truth on stage. Stella Adler, Lee Strasberg, and the Group Theatre are changed forever.
Episode 03
Episode 03
Conversation: Alfre Woodard
Academy Award nominee and Emmy Award winner Alfre Woodard joins Jeff to discuss how training shaped her extraordinary career — and what she believes young actors most need to understand about the craft today.
Alfre Woodard Alfre Woodard
Episode 04
Episode 04
Sir Herbert and the Academy
How did Britain develop its own approach to training actors? The founding of the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art by Herbert Beerbohm Tree in 1904 established a tradition of craft — voice, text, and classical technique — that would define British acting for a century.
Episode 05
Episode 05
Young Kostya and the Philosopher
The young Konstantin Stanislavsky encounters Rudolf Steiner's anthroposophy. How did Steiner's ideas about the spiritual life of the body shape what would become the most influential acting system in the world? The unlikely philosophical roots of the Method.
Episode 07
Episode 07
Conversation: Alan Ruck
Alan Ruck — beloved for his role as Connor Roy in Succession — talks with Jeff about his training, his process, and why he believes the Method debate misses the point of what acting actually requires.
Alan Ruck Alan Ruck
Episode 08
Episode 08
Anton Chekhov and the Stage
Anton Chekhov didn't want to write plays. Then he met Stanislavsky. The collaboration between the playwright and the director that produced The Seagull, Three Sisters, and The Cherry Orchard not only changed theatre — it created the template for modern dramatic realism.
Episode 09
Episode 09
Conversation: Cherry Jones
When Jeff Zinn met Cherry Jones at the ART in 1988, she was already well established as a founding member of the resident company. During her time there she would play leading roles in more than two dozen productions including King Lear, Three Sisters, As You Like It, and Twelfth Night. From the ART she went to New York and quickly became one of Broadway\'s most reliable leading ladies, winning Tony awards for Doubt and The Heiress, and multiple awards and nominations for major roles including The Glass Menagerie, Angels in America, Moon for the Misbegotten, and The Baltimore Waltz.
Cherry Jones Cherry Jones
Episode 11
Episode 11
Conversation: David Patrick Kelly
Character actor David Patrick Kelly — whose career spans Broadway and Hollywood — talks about what Michael Chekhov's technique actually feels like from the inside, and why it changed how he understood his own body as an instrument.
David Patrick Kelly David Patrick Kelly
Episode 12
Episode 12
The Hard Birth of the Moscow Art Theatre
The founding years were brutal. Stanislavsky and Nemirovich-Danchenko fought constantly. Their company nearly collapsed. And yet from these struggles emerged not only a theatre but a method — a systematic approach to the actor's art that would travel the world.
Episode 13
Episode 13
Conversation: B.D. Wong
B.D. Wong seemed to come out of nowhere when he won multiple Best Actor awards — including a Tony — for his role in David Henry Hwang's M. Butterfly in 1988. In this conversation we hear how he landed that part, and how it was shaped by his hippie acting teacher in LA, a team of expert voice and movement coaches, the brilliant but abusive British director Jon Dexter, and his very generous costar, John Lithgow. He shares his process for building a character, his feelings about the Method and actors who go too far immersing themselves in a role, and the one thing he does just before "action." We also hear how he has navigated an incredibly varied career that has included recurring roles on Oz, Law & Order, Gotham, Mr. Robot, Nora From Queens, and the Jurassic Park film and video game franchise.
B.D. Wong B.D. Wong
Episode 15
Episode 15
Conversation: Jessica Pimentel
Jessica Pimentel is best known for her work in seven seasons of the Netflix series Orange is the New Black, for which she earned four Screen Actors Guild Award nominations and three wins for best ensemble. A trained concert violinist who also plays guitar, electric bass, and keyboards, Jessica was born and raised in Brooklyn to immigrant parents from the Dominican Republic. She is a Latina of mixed heritage including Native American, Italian, Malian, Irish, and Iberian ancestry. A graduate of the High School for the Performing Arts in New York City and the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, she was awarded the Cleavon Little Scholarship and was a member of the professional acting company.
Neal Huff Jessica Pimentel
Episode 16
Episode 16
Collision on West 44th Street, Part II
In the wake of the MAT's American tour, Michael Chekhov finds a new home at Dartington Hall in Devon, England, where Dorothy Elmhirst and her husband Leonard offer him a sanctuary. The Chekhov School at Dartington — with Beatrice Straight as its star pupil — becomes one of the most extraordinary artistic communities of the twentieth century.
Episode 17
Episode 17
Conversation: Michael Cerveris
Two-time Tony Award winner Michael Cerveris — whose range spans Sweeney Todd to Hedwig — talks about working with directors who come from vastly different training traditions, and whether a great actor has to have a coherent technique at all.
Michael Cerveris Michael Cerveris
Episode 19
Episode 19
Conversation: Neal Huff
Broadway veteran Neal Huff — a Company member at New York Theatre Workshop — talks about the relationship between training and professional practice, and what it means to build a life as a working actor in the American theatre.
Jessica Pimentel Neal Huff
Episode 20
Episode 20
The French Connection, Part II
Michel Saint-Denis — Copeau's nephew — carries the French tradition to England and then America. Through the London Theatre Studio, the Old Vic Theatre School, and finally the Juilliard School, Saint-Denis creates a bridge between French physical training and Anglo-American conservatory education. Meanwhile Joan Littlewood takes ensemble work in a completely different direction.

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About Gurus

Creator, Writer, Narrator, Host

Jeff Zinn

Jeff Zinn is best known as the longtime Artistic Director of Wellfleet Harbor Actors Theater (WHAT) where he produced almost 200 productions, many of which he directed. As an actor he made his Equity debut as "Danny" in David Mamet's Sexual Perversity In Chicago at the Cherry Lane Theatre, and appeared on Broadway with Derek Jacobi in The Suicide. He has narrated many audiobooks including A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn. His book, The Existential Actor: Life and Death, Onstage and Off (Smith and Kraus Publishing) was published in 2015.

Music, Editing and Mixing

J Hagenbuckle

J Hagenbuckle is writer, director and producer for Cape Noir Radio Theater which broadcasts bi-monthly on WOMR in Provincetown. He emerges remarkably unscathed from a 30 plus year career as a freelance sound designer/composer for theater that began with a Jeff Zinn directed David Rabe play called "Goose & Tom Tom" in 1988 at W.H.A.T. in Wellfleet, Cape Cod. This crazy train has taken him On and Off Broadway, to London, many Boston and Regional theaters including 13 seasons at The Berkshire Theater Festival, 11 seasons at Commonwealth Shakespeare Company, 10 years at Hartford TheaterWorks. Along the way he was the first sound designer to receive Boston's Elliot Norton Award for Outstanding Designer, he's an NEA/TCG Design Fellow and earned an MFA in Theater Arts from Brandeis.

Creative Consultant

Brendan Hughes

Brendan Patrick Hughes spent his early childhood on a commune near Boston that was started by the inventor of rubber gloves. There, he would routinely nap in the sun on the stomach of a lazy bull named Stanley. He is now a film director and producer, podcast creator, professor and performance artist working in Los Angeles and New York. He has directed one feature film, several short films, about a hundred plays, one opera, the second season of a fiction podcast, a couple of documentaries, undergrads at Harvard, Yale, Pace, and Occidental, and even some Apple employees in an 'authenticity on camera' workshop. He is a graduate of Yale School of Drama's directing program.

Selected Sources

Essential Books

  • An Actor Prepares — Konstantin Stanislavsky
  • Building a Character — Konstantin Stanislavsky
  • Creating a Role — Konstantin Stanislavsky
  • My Life in Art — Konstantin Stanislavsky
  • To the Actor — Michael Chekhov
  • Impro — Keith Johnstone
  • Improvisation for the Theater — Viola Spolin
  • Respect for Acting — Uta Hagen
  • A Dream of Passion — Lee Strasberg
  • The Technique of Acting — Stella Adler
  • Sanford Meisner on Acting — Sanford Meisner & Dennis Longwell
  • The Empty Space — Peter Brook
  • An Actor's Work — Konstantin Stanislavsky (trans. Benedetti)
  • Stanislavsky: A Life — Jean Benedetti
  • Michael Chekhov: A Critical Portrait — Mel Gordon

Further Reading

  • The Moscow Art Theatre — Nick Worrall
  • Jacques Copeau — John Rudlin
  • Michel Saint-Denis and the Shaping of the Modern Actor — Katharine Cockin
  • Joan Littlewood's Theatre — Nadine Holdsworth
  • The Fervent Years: The Group Theatre — Harold Clurman
  • Strasberg at the Actors Studio — Robert H. Hethmon, ed.
  • A Method to Their Madness — Foster Hirsch
  • Juilliard — Andrea Olmstead
  • John Houseman: The Years of Liaison — John Houseman
  • Rudolf Steiner: An Introduction to His Life and Work — Gary Lachman
  • Theatre and Everyday Life — Alan Read
  • Brecht on Theatre — Bertolt Brecht (trans. Willett)
  • The Changing Room — David Storey
  • Directors on Directing — Toby Cole & Helen Krich Chinoy, eds.
  • The Actor's Art and Craft — William Esper & Damon DiMarco

Archival Sources

  • Dartington Hall Trust Archive — Devon, England
  • Moscow Art Theatre Museum — Moscow, Russia
  • New York Public Library for the Performing Arts — Billy Rose Theatre Division
  • Actors Studio Archive — New York University
  • Group Theatre Papers — Wisconsin Historical Society
  • Juilliard School Archives — New York
  • Theatre Museum Collection — Victoria and Albert Museum, London
  • Copeau Papers — Bibliothèque nationale de France

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